Protein/Power Bars Question

Originally Posted by OmniPotentTitan

who said it makes glucose out of thin air ?

That's the only reason why insulin would matter in this argument. Otherwise, it hardly does.

oh maltodextrin is very complex
its nice to post, but you neither answered the question, nor was it for you.

Maltodextrine is indeed complex. But the complex/simple thing doesn't matter, and nobody has even pretended it mattered since about 1993. If you want, compare white bread to fructose on II and GI. LMAO. Irrelevent anyway since II and GI aren't going to matter when you're bulking and eating mixed meals. Insulin levels won't matter as long as they're non-retarded. So just drop the insulin argument or tell us why you think it actually matters.

Why don't we start all over. Tell us *how* "clean" foods are superior to "dirty" foods in altering body composition, considering equal amounts of calories, protein, EFA's, and HFCS/TFA's.

Originally Posted by Dixon

That's the only reason why insulin would matter in this argument. Otherwise, it hardly does.

insulin matters because unless you need it spiked post-workout, it shouldnt be.

Maltodextrine is indeed complex. But the complex/simple thing doesn't matter, and nobody has even pretended it mattered since about 1993. If you want, compare white bread to fructose on II and GI.

why would I compared white bread to fructose? where did this come from

LMAO. Irrelevent anyway since II and GI aren't going to matter when you're bulking and eating mixed meals. Insulin levels won't matter as long as they're non-retarded. So just drop the insulin argument or tell us why you think it actually matters.

what are "non-retarded" levels of insulin ? I've told you why it matters, its very basic.

Originally Posted by Dixon

Why don't we start all over. Tell us *how* "clean" foods are superior to "dirty" foods in altering body composition, considering equal amounts of calories, protein, EFA's, and HFCS/TFA's.

How would I be eating high fructose corn syrup or trans fatty acids if I am eating clean ?
oh and you dont consider carbs and saturated fats important enough to also stay at the same levels ??

[quickWS6]

Originally Posted by treysoucie

i did understand it, but i dont understand how you are forwarding a response on the assumption that a "dirty" bulk, and a "clean" bulk are gonna somehow magically have the same macro breakdown and caloric equivalancy, this is just ludicrous.... if you are dirty bulking and have the same macro breakdown, and caloric intake as a clean bulk, its not really dirty bulk then is it?

Once again:

Let's make sure we're talking about the same things here regarding "clean" and "dirty". Clean would be the standard chicken, vegetables, oatmeal, etc. etc. and dirty would be the same diet breakdown but from "junk" food, fattier foods, etc. etc. etc. Right? Now, if you're talking "clean" is structured and "dirty" is eating everything in sight, then you would be correct that there is a difference.

You're obviously talking about the "eating everything in sight", which is not a diet, it's an exercise in gluttony.

Originally Posted by quickWS6

Once again:

Let's make sure we're talking about the same things here regarding "clean" and "dirty". Clean would be the standard chicken, vegetables, oatmeal, etc. etc. and dirty would be the same diet breakdown but from "junk" food, fattier foods, etc. etc. etc. Right? Now, if you're talking "clean" is structured and "dirty" is eating everything in sight, then you would be correct that there is a difference.

You're obviously talking about the "eating everything in sight", which is not a diet, it's an exercise in gluttony.

thats what dirty bulking is, its when people cant control themselves from eatting ****ty foods.

[quickWS6]

OmniPotentTitan, if you come up with a genuine question worthy of answering, I'll do it. So far you haven't brought anything impressive. Give me a solid argument, not "insulin shouldn't be spiked".

[quickWS6]

Originally Posted by OmniPotentTitan

thats what dirty bulking is, its when people cant control themselves from eatting ****ty foods.

I somehow missed that in my dictionary. Spend enough time and you'll become familiar with "clean" and "dirty" foods that have nothing to do with losing control.

Originally Posted by quickWS6

I somehow missed that in my dictionary. Spend enough time and you'll become familiar with "clean" and "dirty" foods that have nothing to do with losing control.

ad hominem.
You have brought no information into this thread ; simply "this is wrong" "that is incorrect"

answer the questions or dont post at all.

[Man Boobs]

So are you registering a bunch of different names just to post in here or what?

[quickWS6]

Originally Posted by OmniPotentTitan

answer the questions or dont post at all.

Give me a logical question and your reasoning and I'll happily respond. What would you prefer: referenced articles, links to applicable texts, or direct link to the studies?

I don't see anywhere that I attacked you directly instead of the argument. So, that's not an ad hominem.